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you're tuned in to night vision radio

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exposing the truth one secret at a time

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prepare yourself as we explore the

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shadow worlds of suppressed history

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secret knowledge forbidden religion

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oh

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welcome to night vision radio

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welcome back to night vision if you're

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just joining us i'm your host renee

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barnett

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and i have with me tonight lynn buchanan

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he is one of the original remote viewers

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for the us military at a project

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stargate and he has continued on with

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that work in the private sector and in

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his private life and i was

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pumping him for information during the

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break and i'm going to continue to do so

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on the air

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you know uh you have continued this on

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in in your uh

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private life and in in in

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in your own private business

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uh with your company uh and it's called

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problem solutions innovations which

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interestingly spells out psy

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and uh

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but it didn't really start out as a side

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company did it

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no um i

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was working computers before i went into

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the military unit and so

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you know into the remote viewing unit

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and uh

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so when i got to the remote viewing unit

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i took

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uh joe mcmonagle's place he was retiring

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and he had been the database manager

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and so

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i started

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programming the computers for

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the remote viewing unit and being the

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database manager

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as well as the uh uh

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everybody in the we were such a small

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unit everybody wore four or five hats

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and um

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so i i worked the computers and

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programmed the computers for the remote

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when i got out of service

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i started a data analysis company

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believe it or not

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in dc

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nobody's really using the data the way

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they're supposed to

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and so i started this company and then

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you know analyzing data to get

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information

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about the company and about what they

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should do and all and

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when the

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i was getting all these calls for

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training and so i just said hey

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i can stay home i don't have to drive

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five hours a day into dc and back and

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i i just started teaching the remote

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now i noticed something interesting or

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at least a you know caught my eye

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on your uh on your website again that

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see ourviewer.com

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when you had uh i think it might have

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been under the about us section and you

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you named the the trainers you know the

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the certified trainers and i noticed

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the large majority of them were women

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is there is that just coincidental at

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this particular time

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in your

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that you have more women students

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no uh i actually i think have more men

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students really um

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miss through this as sexist or anything

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are non-working wives

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and so they have an opportunity to go

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into this as a

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as a job and you know as a teacher

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do the eight hour a day

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it's just a matter of time before it

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you mean there really are women that

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still get to stay home and don't have to

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a detective private

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investigator training

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washington state

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company

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that uses 25

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military trained remote viewers trained

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trained by the military in the military

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method

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just amazing work

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the reason i asked that is because uh i

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know that you know they sort of tapped

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you because of the psychokinesis and i

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know you know they sort of tapped joel

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mcmonagle because he had this experience

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you know psychic experience or or a

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spiritual experience really

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you know so they thought well maybe

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there's something to that maybe there's

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some psychic ability there or something

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and you know we all

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are familiar with the old term you know

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women's intuition and so i i wondered

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whether women had a

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a more of a proclivity just because

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they're sort of used to using their

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intuition more or they felt freer to use

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it maybe than some men might i don't

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women to

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be more freer about it

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doesn't really require

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a strong intuition or a strong uh

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uh psychic ability to do the work

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by saying that most of the military

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remote viewers were men

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indicative of the fact that most of the

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yeah you know somebody if i if i could

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just throw something at you and i

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already know the answers but i'm going

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to let you answer it

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uh max is asking even though remote

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viewing may have been declassified

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it really isn't but you know i well the

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idea that the project was there was

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declassified that's right the uh the

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was never classified period

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in any way

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what was classified was the fact that

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the u.s military was using it

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an intelligence collection unit that was

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using it

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that was classified

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the people added sri

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and uh and

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of course they were doing research

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most of their research was government

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to come out with the fact that

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remote viewing existed

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would have revealed that they were doing

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has never been classified

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oh that's that's wild now

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his his question was actually a compound

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when he said even though it went through

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this declassification does the

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i have two

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stock answers for that okay

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one is when you retire they quit telling

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you secrets

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i have three stock answers the

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second one is i'm not a spokesman for

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the u.s military if you want the answer

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to that you will have to

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ask the u.s military um

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really hope they have

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a unit or they're still using it because

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we did a fantastic amount of work

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and we were very successful and

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we helped a lot of people

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bringing soldiers home saving money

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i think it would be stupid of the

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government to not have a remote viewing

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unit

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the government does stupid things and so

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we're back to the fact that i don't know

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because they don't tell me things

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but now the the next part of the

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question i know the answer to this one

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for sure because

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you've told me the answer to this in the

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past he says if so if they are using it

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uh does the military the nsa the cia fbi

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and so on use it to spy on

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u.s civilians so

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and the answer is no yep

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the uh

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presidential order 11905

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when kennedy came in it changed to

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presidential order it was superseded by

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presidential order 12

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forbade

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u.s intelligence efforts

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from spying on u.s citizens

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without proper consent

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and the proper consent could only come

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you know without official proper consent

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uh in civilian and civil cases

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for us it was congress

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it's not just a saying it would have

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taken an act of congress for us to

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spy on u.s citizens

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and uh 1233

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12 333 is still in effect as far as i

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it would actually take literally an act

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of congress that's pretty amazing yeah

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yeah and

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you know what we were talking earlier

302
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about in your in your personal life i

303
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mean do you

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hold yourself to that standard

305
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i still do yes i do

306
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uh for women like you weren't tempted to

307
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like remote view linda when you were

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dating or anything like that

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well i didn't know i didn't know

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anything about remote viewing back then

311
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that was back in the dark ages you know

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no i

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all remote viewers all controlled remote

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viewers

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have strengths and weaknesses

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one of my strengths is mental access

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it's

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well the analogy i use is

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when i access someone mentally

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it's not like i visit them in their

321
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living room it's that i see their entire

322
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house

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i see all the things i find it extremely

324
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distasteful

325
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and

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really dislike it uh

327
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it's too much information

328
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i don't want it

329
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uh

330
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i don't want to know those things

331
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now if it's

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or if it's um

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uh

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leader military

335
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military political or something like

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that

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then

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i'll do it

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but

340
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it's still to me extremely distasteful i

341
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i hate it

342
00:14:45,910 --> 00:14:43,040
now why is that is it because you're

343
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if it's someone let's say you know a bad

344
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person that you're looking at a criminal

345
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or

346
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is it because you can you feel that

347
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oh well thanks for coming in mr mahoney

348
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do you have your member id card yep i

349
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have it right here in the fep blue app

350
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see great it's awesome the app can also

351
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help me find a provider and keep tabs on

352
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my deductibles okay can i oh yeah and my

353
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out-of-pocket spending and visit limits

354
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and i can call the nurse line i'm really

355
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glad it does all that but i only need to

356
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:16,079
see your member id card well that's it

357
00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:18,240
why didn't you say so fearless is just

358
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one tap away with the new fep blue app

359
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:22,240
from blue cross and blue shield you can

360
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access your health benefits on the go

361
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download it now at fepblue.org slash app

362
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or you're just you don't want to enroll

363
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yeah i guess it's part that but it's um

364
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um

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you know

366
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i don't want to know all their dirty

367
00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:40,399
little secrets and

368
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using the analogy

369
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it's not like i visit them in their

370
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living room it's like i

371
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see the hemorrhoid cream in the cabinet

372
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and

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um i just

374
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it's too i don't want to do it

375
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i find it distasteful i i don't like it

376
00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:03,279
oh that's really wild now i i do know

377
00:16:10,550 --> 00:16:07,120
that you you have been involved in um

378
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uh assisting police and uh

379
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:12,880
other law enforcement agencies and you

380
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:15,680
know finding a missing child or

381
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you know that's right

382
00:16:22,230 --> 00:16:19,600
locating a criminal on the run

383
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in civilian cases they are authorized to

384
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do that in in certain

385
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uh

386
00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:29,680
in certain instances where

387
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there is personal danger or danger of

388
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losing life or lamb or something like

389
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that yeah and then they're authorized

390
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under 1233 to

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actually spy on u.s citizens

392
00:16:47,110 --> 00:16:44,880
well

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in addition to your uh

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your your company uh

395
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problem solutions innovations

396
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you have this other

397
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organization called the assign witness

398
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we discontinued that because

399
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all of a sudden

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a lawyer just

401
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:08,640
started

402
00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:11,280
tearing it down and um

403
00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:12,720
and

404
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:14,000
the

405
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else

406
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uh he just destroyed it

407
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,160
and so finally i just gave it up and i

408
00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:23,760
said okay

409
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,120
we're not going to have an assigned

410
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witness program

411
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:29,120
we're just going to

412
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do favors for the police

413
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:34,799
the way it became called the assigned

414
00:17:40,630 --> 00:17:38,160
witness program was that i was doing

415
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,640
a case for a detective

416
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and detectives

417
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:44,880
are good at getting information but

418
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:47,520
they're horrible at telling you

419
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anything

420
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:49,840
and

421
00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:52,400
he never could tell me what he wanted

422
00:17:56,549 --> 00:17:54,720
what information he wanted in all that

423
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:56,559
and finally i said

424
00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:59,120
what is it you really really need

425
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:02,000
and he said i need a witness

426
00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,320
and i said i can assign one

427
00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:08,320
and all of a sudden you see this light

428
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:12,160
come on behind his eyes and he said

429
00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:13,600
oh

430
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,679
that's what you do isn't it and that's

431
00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,320
where the assigned witness program came

432
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:20,480
from the name of the assigned witness

433
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:22,400
program

434
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:24,880
that's really wild and you know as you

435
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,520
know uh gosh i guess it's been about 20

436
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:29,200
years ago or so

437
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:32,080
uh i got involved in a case

438
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:32,880
uh

439
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:35,679
on a television program i was working on

440
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:37,200
and um

441
00:18:42,470 --> 00:18:40,880
it was the case of a missing young girl

442
00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:42,480
in virginia

443
00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:44,320
and uh

444
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the

445
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:49,440
in fact i think his last name was

446
00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:51,840
barnette because uh

447
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,480
barnett of course is my name and that's

448
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:56,720
why i remembered it uh

449
00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,120
but uh anyway he said yes i'd love to

450
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:01,200
have the help you said well we can help

451
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:02,960
them if they request it

452
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:06,880
and so he did and you were able uh to

453
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:09,120
give them a lot of information and which

454
00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:11,039
turned out in the end to be correct they

455
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:13,360
didn't follow it in the beginning

456
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,960
they thought they got a they they

457
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:17,120
arrested the wrong guy

458
00:19:21,669 --> 00:19:19,360
and then later the information that you

459
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,679
had given them about the right guy was

460
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,760
born out and

461
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,360
you the information that you had given

462
00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:27,520
them also that this guy was a serial

463
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,400
killer

464
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,240
and the little girl unfortunately had

465
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:32,640
been murdered and um

466
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,520
he was she was not going to be the last

467
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:37,440
and that all turned out to be correct

468
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:40,080
too that's true and in fact on that one

469
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,520
uh

470
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:43,760
one of the things i found in the session

471
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:46,400
that i was doing for them this was all

472
00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:48,240
televised and all

473
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,559
one of the things i found was

474
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:52,480
the next victim

475
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,760
and

476
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:58,000
basically where to find the next victim

477
00:20:03,350 --> 00:19:59,520
after he

478
00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:08,390
it was just it was a very sad situation

479
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,870
but yeah

480
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:11,669
we

481
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,440
i love to help

482
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:14,960
and

483
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:17,360
now much of the work i've turned over to

484
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:20,400
the uh to the student of mine who

485
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,240
has a private investigation agency

486
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,039
and but like on that i have many people

487
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,360
who call and say

488
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,840
well the police aren't paying attention

489
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,080
to my case and i need for you to do

490
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,240
remote viewing and i say

491
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:38,000
okay

492
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:41,600
but you have to have the police ask me

493
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:44,720
because legally

494
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:46,960
i still honor

495
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,760
12 333

496
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,039
and

497
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:54,480
see i'm i'm not retired i'm on retention

498
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,600
and so

499
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:57,200
um

500
00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:00,720
so i pay attention to 12 33 i'm not

501
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:03,679
going against it and

502
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:06,799
and yeah if

503
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:09,120
if someone wants me to work on a missing

504
00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,679
person case or something like that

505
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:14,080
they have got to have the police

506
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,200
officially ask me to do it or else i

507
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:19,919
can't i'm not going to jail

508
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:21,600
i'm sorry yeah

509
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,880
yeah no no of course not but

510
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,720
you know and and how many

511
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:28,320
how many times has that actually

512
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,280
happened

513
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,360
because i would imagine a lot of police

514
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:34,080
officers would probably say no

515
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,520
i'm not going to mess around with that

516
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:37,039
psychic stuff

517
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:40,240
that's uh that's very prevalent uh they

518
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,400
have the blue sense but nobody else is

519
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:44,880
supposed to have it that's right

520
00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:49,270
what we found with the assigned witness

521
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,640
program we never

522
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:54,720
we never went to the

523
00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:57,679
to the police and said we can help you

524
00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,919
uh the

525
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:01,919
detective that

526
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:04,799
i was talking to that you know in that

527
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,880
conversation the name assigned witness

528
00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:07,919
program

529
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:10,400
came back um

530
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,240
he uh just word of mouth he told other

531
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,520
detectives and they told detectives and

532
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:19,440
other police departments

533
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,000
we never let anybody know

534
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:24,799
i mean we never advertised in any way

535
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,919
not even once but we were

536
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,240
finally getting more work from police

537
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:32,480
departments than we could handle

538
00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,080
we didn't have the

539
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:36,159
civilian remote viewers

540
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,799
time to handle the cases

541
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,200
wow that's pretty amazing

542
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,919
can you share a case

543
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,159
uh other than the one that i happen to

544
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,679
personally know about that we just

545
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:51,919
talked about the little girl

546
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,470
probably if i sanitized it and yeah no

547
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:03,909
okay uh

548
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,280
there was one where we were called and

549
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:11,039
they suspected a

550
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:14,159
drug shipment coming across the border

551
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:15,440
and uh

552
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,320
so

553
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,320
they asked if we could give the time and

554
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:19,919
the location

555
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,440
of the crossing and

556
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:24,960
we did

557
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,720
and they sent police out to hide you

558
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:29,679
know

559
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,480
and

560
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:32,320
right at that time

561
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:34,320
and at that place

562
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:35,360
the

563
00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:41,120
it

564
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,390
that is pretty amazing

565
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:48,960
uh the amazing one i think

566
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:51,200
for me was

567
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,640
joe mcmonagle

568
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,000
was given

569
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,159
a picture of the roof of a humongous

570
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:57,360
building

571
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,799
and

572
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:00,400
he

573
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:07,200
any ground agents to this building

574
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,559
it was that

575
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,919
secure

576
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,360
and he

577
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:13,679
not only laid out the floor plan of the

578
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:16,320
building but he told that they told what

579
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:19,039
was being built inside the building

580
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,559
and

581
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:23,120
the building was about a mile from

582
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,320
the ocean

583
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:26,080
and he said they're building the biggest

584
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:29,200
damn submarine i've ever seen in my life

585
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:30,559
and

586
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,880
into the ocean on this day at this hour

587
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,559
and um

588
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,240
the um

589
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,440
the spine sky satellite was diverted

590
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:47,200
to be over that building at that day at

591
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,480
that hour

592
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,919
and that's when they rolled out the

593
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:51,840
boomer submarine

594
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:54,400
the largest submarine in the world

595
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:55,360
and

596
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,480
for 10 or 15 years

597
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,720
the picture that the satellite took that

598
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,679
day

599
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:03,840
was the only picture

600
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,799
the us ever had of the boomer submarine

601
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:10,880
oh my gosh

602
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:12,080
and uh

603
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,960
uh this last year at the international

604
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:17,360
remote viewers association

605
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:19,039
uh convention

606
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,799
they had a psychic spy contest

607
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,559
and so uh

608
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,520
um they asked me to pick a target so i

609
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,159
picked a target

610
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,279
of the roof of a building from you know

611
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:34,720
google earth

612
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,760
and uh it's an old sawmill

613
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,919
and from the air you can tell it's an

614
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:41,360
old sawmill

615
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:44,799
and i took a picture of the roof

616
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,279
it hasn't been a sawmill for

617
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,880
ages

618
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,480
and now

619
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,120
it's the building where all of the space

620
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:54,640
debris comes

621
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:55,760
to be

622
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,400
refurbished and sent out to museums

623
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,159
around the u.s

624
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:02,080
oh my gosh and

625
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:03,200
so

626
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:04,159
one of

627
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,710
took the picture of the roof of the

628
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,120
building and that was it

629
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,600
laid out the floor plan of the inside of

630
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:17,600
the building told what was going on in

631
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:20,559
there described what was

632
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:22,000
what was there

633
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:23,279
and uh

634
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,039
uh did as good a job as joe did

635
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:28,480
and uh

636
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,200
and i was very proud of him for that

637
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,480
um

638
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,320
and when he was describing what was

639
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,400
inside i mean did he know it was space

640
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,480
debris or was he just describing like i

641
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:39,200
see

642
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,320
you know this

643
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,919
type of object

644
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,520
yeah this is one of the things about

645
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,080
controlled remote viewing we

646
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,240
just almost absolutely

647
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,640
use no nouns and so

648
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,799
when a remote viewer

649
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,640
all of a sudden decides oh i know what

650
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:56,240
this is

651
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:58,559
we make them stop take a break come back

652
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,960
later you know when they forget

653
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,559
but

654
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,760
uh we have an absolute rule that you

655
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,960
describe

656
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,200
you don't identify

657
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:11,279
because um

658
00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:14,799
if you identify you lock yourself into

659
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,269
i'll give you an example uh there was a

660
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:23,600
uh target one time

661
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,559
of the clean room at microsoft where

662
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,000
they make the uh chips

663
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:32,640
and uh this natural psychic

664
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,799
i was watching

665
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,559
she said

666
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,559
i see a place that's very clean it's in

667
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:40,720
a humongous building

668
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:43,600
it's all white inside the people working

669
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,640
here

670
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,720
are wearing white

671
00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,039
and they have the little booties over

672
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,679
their feet and she was given a totally

673
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,279
accurate description

674
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:54,880
and she said

675
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,559
and they're wearing what looks like

676
00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:58,799
surgical masks

677
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,000
and in this hospital i hear people

678
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:04,880
screaming and there are people dying and

679
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,320
you know the minute she said

680
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:11,039
she identified their mask as being

681
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:13,679
hospital mask

682
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:14,960
she was

683
00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:19,440
hospital he was in a hospital couldn't

684
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,399
get out that's right and uh

685
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:25,279
and so in controlled remote viewing

686
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:27,360
basically

687
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:30,399
if the viewer

688
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,520
uh

689
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:33,760
figures out what the target is

690
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,669
oh that's good yeah that

691
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:41,760
i know it's very very controlled thus

692
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,799
the title uh controlled remote viewing

693
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:46,399
you know we're going to take another

694
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:49,360
quick break and when we come back

695
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,120
i want to talk a little bit about more

696
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,760
some of the your experiences but also

697
00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,080
i know you've got some new things coming

698
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,799
down the pike here in terms of your

699
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,559
training that's going to open it up to a

700
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:01,919
lot more people because it's kind of

701
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:02,720
tough

702
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,320
uh as it is uh there's only one you

703
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:08,000
and and like i was telling you on the

704
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,440
break i i don't think you want us all

705
00:29:14,389 --> 00:29:11,840
showing up on your doorstep nor can't

706
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,399
nor can we all make it there so there's

707
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,039
a solution for that we got a problem and

708
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,960
now we got a solution and we're going to

709
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,200
be very innovative about it so when we

710
00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:24,240
come back more with lynn buchanan so

711
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:26,660
hang in there with us

712
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:37,510
welcome back to night vision i'm your

713
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:40,000
host renee barnett got lynn buchanan

714
00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:41,360
with me tonight

715
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:44,080
he is a remote viewer he was one of the

716
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:45,200
originals

717
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:48,640
for the us military in project stargate

718
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,000
he's continued it on in his private life

719
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:54,000
now you said something a minute ago

720
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,520
though that was interesting you said

721
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:58,320
you're not retired

722
00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:59,600
um

723
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,640
no it's it's an official thing uh

724
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:05,200
basically i'm retired if

725
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:06,320
you know

726
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,960
ever call back

727
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:13,679
fat gray-headed guys then uh

728
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:14,559
you know

729
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:18,630
yeah

730
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,520
then

731
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:21,360
by the time they ever call me back we've

732
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,830
but now do they keep you on hey where

733
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,200
are you going jim the elevator's over

734
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,200
here taking the stairs but our meeting's

735
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:32,799
up on eight yeah i know but that's eight

736
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,360
floors up that's like eight times

737
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,600
i don't a lot of stairs that's the point

738
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,120
i've already lost a few pounds and

739
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,520
earned almost 100 in wellness incentives

740
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,520
whoa you're getting rewarded for working

741
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,679
out yeah i know i'm just as surprised as

742
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,520
you are bob fearless is full of

743
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:49,360
surprises that's the power of the blue

744
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,039
cross and blue shield federal employee

745
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:52,640
program learn more about our healthy

746
00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:55,440
benefits and sign up at fepblue.org

747
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,159
choose blue by december 11th retention

748
00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,880
because they want to use you every now

749
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,000
and then for

750
00:31:06,549 --> 00:31:04,000
certain projects no i think it's just

751
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,559
special skills uh

752
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:09,120
um i think they just do that for special

753
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:10,399
skills people

754
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:12,480
just in case you're needed they they got

755
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:13,440
you

756
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:28,799
only got so much time

757
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:32,480
and so you've come up now with uh some a

758
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,200
way that more people can have access to

759
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,440
your information and the training

760
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:38,799
so uh

761
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,399
and i wanted you to explain that because

762
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,480
i i'd like to hear myself exactly how

763
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:44,399
that's gonna work one of the big

764
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:47,039
problems for the students who come here

765
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,039
i mean it's great to have face-to-face

766
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:50,720
time and all that

767
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,440
but they were paying like a thousand

768
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,960
dollars for

769
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,080
uh

770
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,120
travel and lodging and restaurants and

771
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,440
all that they were having to take time

772
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,880
off of work

773
00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,799
and time away from their families and

774
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,919
all that

775
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:07,919
and

776
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,000
i just decided hey

777
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,320
i'm giving the same information because

778
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,279
this is a standardized methodology

779
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,640
and so

780
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,240
i could have

781
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:21,840
videos

782
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,039
that people could watch from their home

783
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:27,279
you know during the week and then spend

784
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:30,240
all day long on saturday

785
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:32,480
uh on

786
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:41,269
yeah going over their sessions having

787
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,799
face-to-face time through skype or

788
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,080
zoom or

789
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,320
go to meeting or whatever

790
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:49,919
and

791
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,440
money

792
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,600
i would have the week off

793
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:57,120
and uh

794
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,080
um

795
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,760
you know they would have they wouldn't

796
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:01,679
have to spend all that money

797
00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:03,200
and they wouldn't have to be away from

798
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,840
their families and so forth

799
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:07,360
and um

800
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:10,960
and it just dawned on me that we have

801
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,240
these capabilities now why not use them

802
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,159
to everybody's benefit

803
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:18,080
and what i'm doing is

804
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,720
instead of making

805
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,080
like

806
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,440
video and videotaping a class

807
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,039
i'm going through

808
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:29,519
and videotaping

809
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,190
on

810
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,760
each and every topic

811
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:39,840
and aspect of the remote of the

812
00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:41,840
controlled remote viewing

813
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,120
so that

814
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:44,640
if somebody

815
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,720
you know watches these and then has a

816
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,120
question about something they've seen

817
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,960
they don't have to wade through an hour

818
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,720
long

819
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:55,679
video trying to find the answer

820
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,600
they just look up

821
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:58,880
enneagrams

822
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:01,200
and there's five minutes there's the

823
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:02,240
answer

824
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,519
and

825
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:06,320
it's going to wind up that i'm making

826
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:08,000
around four

827
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,760
three to four hundred

828
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,079
of these videos

829
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,320
and uh

830
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,399
some of them

831
00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:19,679
apply not just to crv but to

832
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:21,359
all

833
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:25,359
so those i'm going to

834
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:27,919
just put out to the public

835
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,320
the ones for the course

836
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:31,599
uh

837
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:35,679
will of course be you know

838
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:38,320
step by step

839
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,359
teaching

840
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:42,000
and those will be for the students only

841
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:43,200
but

842
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:46,720
they can get

843
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,560
the training which is standardized oh

844
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:53,040
if you look on my website

845
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:54,480
we have

846
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,440
six

847
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,920
highly qualified teachers

848
00:35:04,710 --> 00:34:59,520
and

849
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,720
you go to one trainer for

850
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:06,960
basic

851
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:09,440
you can pick another trainer if you know

852
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,560
if

853
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:12,400
their schedule is open and they have a

854
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,760
class opening

855
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,000
you go to one of the other trainers and

856
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,079
it picks up right exactly where you left

857
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:23,589
we're all teaching the same thing

858
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,800
and so um the military method

859
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:28,880
and so this way

860
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:32,000
people could watch the videos on their

861
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,520
own time

862
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,839
be with their family not have to travel

863
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,280
not have to

864
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,680
put out all those expenses

865
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:41,440
and

866
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,480
like one day a week

867
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:46,320
we would still have the face-to-face

868
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:47,440
time

869
00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:48,560
uh

870
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,520
just taking as long as it takes to

871
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,200
solve all of their problems get all

872
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,599
their questions answered and all that

873
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,960
and

874
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:58,400
i think it's

875
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,920
i think i'm doing it more for the

876
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:01,359
students

877
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:02,640
because

878
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:04,720
the travel and the lodging has been a

879
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,240
real burden to the students it really is

880
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,839
yeah and i can imagine so many more

881
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,000
people would be able to do it if they

882
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,640
didn't have to do that now how is this

883
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,079
going to be available is this going to

884
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,800
be like on a site or do you order the

885
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:20,240
videos or

886
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:21,200
uh

887
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:24,079
yes i i don't know yet um

888
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,880
the uh there are

889
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:29,200
sites now on the

890
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:31,119
internet

891
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,480
that are

892
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,800
educational sites

893
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:36,480
that uh

894
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:38,240
they will

895
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:43,119
you know you give the students

896
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:45,680
uh and you give a schedule and they will

897
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:48,480
open the videos for that week for those

898
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,520
students

899
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:51,040
uh and

900
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:54,480
protect the videos from anyone else they

901
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:57,680
will administer tests

902
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:00,720
uh keep record of the test scores and

903
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:04,560
all that keep record of all the um

904
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:05,520
you know

905
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,400
do all the administration for teaching

906
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,839
um

907
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:11,680
and then you know

908
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:15,200
it may wind up that i just uh

909
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,760
have the videos and and

910
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:19,520
put them on dropbox or something like

911
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,960
that for the students as as they need

912
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:25,599
them i haven't figured that out yet do

913
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,079
you have a a timeline

914
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,160
of when this might start becoming

915
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,720
available i'm hoping to have it by the

916
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:34,640
end of december

917
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:35,760
um

918
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:41,109
uh

919
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,320
i've got

920
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:47,520
close to i think 70 of the videos made

921
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,480
um

922
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,440
it's going to take about 120

923
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,359
for the basic course which i'm going to

924
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:54,800
open first

925
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,920
uh

926
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,040
and so

927
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,119
it's one of those things where

928
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,280
i have got to really

929
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:03,680
hunker down and get get to stroking on

930
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:04,640
this

931
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,599
uh

932
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,440
but i'm hoping to have it by the end of

933
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,150
oh oh that sounds really great well

934
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:14,160
you'll have to keep us posted and and

935
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,960
i'll let people know so

936
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:19,920
i will put it on my website too

937
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,640
and again that's see ourviewer.com for

938
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,079
people who

939
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:26,320
may have tuned in a little bit later

940
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:29,760
uh if i could uh the the chat room is is

941
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:30,839
really really

942
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,760
active uh

943
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:33,920
it's going on and someone was asking

944
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:36,079
about uh ingo swan and i know we talked

945
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,400
about uh ingo a little bit earlier and

946
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,680
he was one of the people that was

947
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:43,680
involved in you know sort of creating

948
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:45,920
the program or creating the protocols i

949
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,240
guess but i did create them you know he

950
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:51,200
was he did and

951
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,079
uh

952
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,480
they were asking was he considered a

953
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:56,880
remote viewer

954
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,640
i guess he would have been to create the

955
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:00,720
protocols yeah

956
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:04,800
he he was the remote viewer yeah

957
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:07,599
ingo was a natural psychic

958
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:13,349
an

959
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,320
i find it hard to believe that he didn't

960
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,480
have

961
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,440
spiritual or extra extraterrestrial help

962
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:27,200
or something because

963
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,320
the method that he created

964
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:32,640
has not been improved on

965
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:35,359
and hasn't even been matched by anyone

966
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,990
the the way he created it

967
00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,390
you you follow

968
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,560
the ingo swan method

969
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:51,280
and you don't have to be psychic

970
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:53,040
the information just comes out on the

971
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:54,400
paper

972
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:55,359
wow

973
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,280
that's amazing

974
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,960
he um

975
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,400
he really wasn't

976
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:03,920
an unusual person really interesting

977
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:07,920
yeah i i really liked anguish he's uh

978
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:10,400
the uh

979
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:12,320
ingo was the old curmudgeon that you

980
00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:15,520
everybody loves you know yeah yeah

981
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:18,320
i mean you knew you knew him i i spoke

982
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,280
with you a couple of times uh

983
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,119
you know within the context of you know

984
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,280
some tv show or something i was working

985
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:27,920
on but also um

986
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,599
he we interviewed him for ufo magazine

987
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,839
when i was there and he became good

988
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:35,760
friends with don ecker who was our

989
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:38,240
research director

990
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,040
and uh so he was kind of

991
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:44,079
around you know the ingo influence was

992
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:46,880
around and we got a chance to you know

993
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,640
speak with him a few times and he we had

994
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,480
him on the show that we were doing back

995
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:53,359
then the radio show with when i was uh

996
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,319
working with don ecker on his radio show

997
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,560
and so i i was just so impressed with

998
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,800
him and and i remember uh

999
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:02,640
i think it was around in 1996 or

1000
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:04,319
something he came out with a book on

1001
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,800
marion sightings and i thought whoa ho

1002
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:08,480
where did this come from

1003
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:09,440
you know

1004
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:12,640
and so we actually did a piece on on

1005
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,280
strange universe on english there's a uh

1006
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:17,280
there's a little story that doesn't get

1007
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:20,720
usually get told about that book

1008
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:24,240
a week before the deadline to turn it in

1009
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,680
his computer

1010
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,359
broke down

1011
00:41:41,190 --> 00:41:28,880
and

1012
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:41,200
i pulled off the text

1013
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,160
from you know one sector at a time

1014
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,640
to recreate the book

1015
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,800
but it took like three or four weeks to

1016
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,480
do that

1017
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,440
and uh during that time he had to have

1018
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:54,960
the um

1019
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:57,280
the the book in

1020
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,560
and so he very quickly just

1021
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,480
rewrote the book from his notes and turn

1022
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:03,839
that in

1023
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:05,520
and um

1024
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,480
and

1025
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,359
the one i have is the original

1026
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,960
and um

1027
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,599
i have the only copy except for a copy

1028
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:16,319
that i made for ingo's sister and gave

1029
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,440
to her

1030
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:19,680
and

1031
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,640
the

1032
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,960
original of that book

1033
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:24,240
is

1034
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,920
has two or three times the amount of

1035
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:28,079
information

1036
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,640
but the book that got published

1037
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:32,319
is

1038
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,280
just

1039
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:35,200
not the book that he had originally

1040
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:36,640
meant for it to be

1041
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,359
oh my gosh is his uh sister in charge of

1042
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,640
his estate

1043
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,200
yeah yeah has she ever thought about

1044
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,119
releasing that version

1045
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:48,240
i don't think so i don't know um that'd

1046
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,520
be amazing

1047
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,160
yeah you'd have to ask her but uh

1048
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,119
what a great story that is

1049
00:43:01,430 --> 00:42:57,599
yeah i um

1050
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,440
yeah i have the copy here and um

1051
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:04,319
it's a you know basically it was a gift

1052
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,240
from ingo

1053
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,960
because he said i could keep a copy

1054
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,240
um

1055
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,640
but it's ingo's work

1056
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:14,560
i would never give it to anyone because

1057
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:16,960
it's not my work

1058
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,680
but i have it i have a print out of it

1059
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:20,800
in my

1060
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,560
uh cabinet here and uh

1061
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,190
then you're saying we do need to show up

1062
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,560
at your doorstep if we want to read that

1063
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,160
if you want to read it you either show

1064
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,550
i'll have to track her down too yeah oh

1065
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,319
that would be interesting to see i did i

1066
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:47,040
do have that book and uh the one that

1067
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,839
actually was published and uh and i did

1068
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,599
read it it's been so many years ago but

1069
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:53,440
i i do remember it quite well and i

1070
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:56,000
remember being very surprised by it it

1071
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,960
but but

1072
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:58,800
learning a little bit more about ingo

1073
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:01,920
swan later i it wasn't so surprising

1074
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:05,040
because there were many many facets

1075
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,480
uh to ingo swan what a

1076
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,440
what a

1077
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:10,960
force you know

1078
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,079
his brain was amazing

1079
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:16,079
but anyway so

1080
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:17,280
back to

1081
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,200
you and your experiences and now

1082
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,800
you're continuing on with your your

1083
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:24,400
training and now you're developing this

1084
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:25,599
new uh

1085
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:29,200
system for for for online training and

1086
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:30,480
where do you

1087
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,640
uh do you feel like it's becoming more

1088
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,960
and more accepted it seems like there

1089
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,640
are a lot of people really interested in

1090
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,359
it and interested in doing the training

1091
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:45,520
yeah uh it's becoming more and more

1092
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:49,680
accepted uh in spite of all of the

1093
00:44:52,550 --> 00:44:51,200
craziness about

1094
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,560
quote contr

1095
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,960
quote remote viewing not controlled

1096
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,400
remote viewing but

1097
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:57,839
remote viewing

1098
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:01,680
uh generic stuff on the internet

1099
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,720
it is becoming more accepted and

1100
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:06,400
back in the beginning

1101
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,440
uh

1102
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:09,359
anybody who wanted an interview like

1103
00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,800
this

1104
00:45:13,589 --> 00:45:12,560
they were just interested in making fun

1105
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:13,599
of it

1106
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:14,640
um

1107
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,680
now

1108
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:18,800
we have well i've gotten i think four

1109
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,480
calls for tv shows and all that uh

1110
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,560
in the last two weeks

1111
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:25,920
uh

1112
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,480
seriously wanting to know more about it

1113
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,880
uh rob lowe called

1114
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,440
uh back in

1115
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:35,839
january i think it was and wanted me to

1116
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,640
come and be on the rob below show the

1117
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,680
um

1118
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:41,839
it's on the sci-fi channel right yeah

1119
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:45,359
the low files no i think it's

1120
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,640
a and e

1121
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,680
always and yeah and uh

1122
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,640
i was not able to come

1123
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:55,839
and so uh i called

1124
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:57,280
the

1125
00:46:07,270 --> 00:45:58,079
uh

1126
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,280
and asked them to go and so they went

1127
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:11,990
it was

1128
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,359
i think the first of the

1129
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,599
you know they have all the ghost shows

1130
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,000
and and they go and looking for ghosts

1131
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:22,880
and nobody ever finds a ghost and

1132
00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,599
and uh they always end in questions

1133
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:27,359
but uh

1134
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:28,480
uh

1135
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,680
in on the rob low show

1136
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:34,240
they they took his two sons out to a

1137
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:35,920
place

1138
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,119
rob lowe stayed at home and um

1139
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,200
with paul smith

1140
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:43,839
and did a session

1141
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,040
and i mean very accurately described

1142
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:50,079
the location where the two boys were

1143
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,319
and it's the first

1144
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,240
show of this type

1145
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,640
that actually succeeded in proving

1146
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:58,079
something

1147
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:00,400
yeah i know they always leave you

1148
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,440
wanting but now has that segment aired

1149
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:06,079
already yes it has

1150
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:07,280
there is a

1151
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,760
lowe

1152
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:14,640
the low files and uh all of his segments

1153
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,720
for that series are on there

1154
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:18,480
uh the remote viewing one is on there

1155
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,359
too

1156
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:21,599
oh i'm gonna have to go watch that yeah

1157
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,960
that sounds fancy they of course had a

1158
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:26,960
segment right in the middle of that show

1159
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,119
where they went out and played with the

1160
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,280
goats because you know the movie the man

1161
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:36,069
so that

1162
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,680
that took a huge section of the show

1163
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:41,200
but the rest of the show was about the

1164
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,640
remote viewing

1165
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,359
now

1166
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:45,520
you mentioned the movie uh someone in

1167
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,119
the chat room early on in fact even

1168
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,839
before the show started uh was talking

1169
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:52,160
about that film and was asking you know

1170
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,920
what you thought about it

1171
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:56,400
oh i thought it was funny

1172
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,560
uh it starts out with you wouldn't

1173
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:00,880
believe how much of this is true

1174
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:01,760
uh

1175
00:48:08,550 --> 00:48:04,400
90 of it is absolutely true it

1176
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,560
absolutely happened and so forth in fact

1177
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,640
general hapgood

1178
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,400
lynn is standing in front of general

1179
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,760
hapgood and

1180
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,920
general hapgood says did you kill my

1181
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:18,240
computers with your mind

1182
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,200
and

1183
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:22,079
i did

1184
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:23,040
and

1185
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:25,280
you know to general stouberbine

1186
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,200
and

1187
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,880
in the movie

1188
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,800
the grin that comes across general

1189
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,640
hapgood's face

1190
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:34,880
is exactly

1191
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,720
the grin that came across general

1192
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,559
stubblebine's face

1193
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,400
and he said far

1194
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,800
f and out have i ever got a job for you

1195
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:45,280
and that's when he took me back to dc

1196
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:46,480
um

1197
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:54,559
that they had to pack in

1198
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:55,440
like

1199
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,880
20 to 25 years of

1200
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:00,839
people

1201
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,280
and incidents

1202
00:49:09,349 --> 00:49:06,160
into a storyline that would last for an

1203
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,870
and so

1204
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,800
every character in there was a

1205
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,040
compilation

1206
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,960
of real people

1207
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,160
oh

1208
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,720
they used my name lynn

1209
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,829
lynn cassidy in the movie was actually a

1210
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:28,319
compilation of

1211
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:29,119
of

1212
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,760
that actually happened in the in real

1213
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,030
yeah oh wow that's great yeah i'm just

1214
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:41,040
telling people in the chat room i'm i'm

1215
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,640
embarrassed to say i haven't seen that

1216
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,400
movie but i'm going to see it now

1217
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:46,079
it's funny

1218
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:47,680
they filmed they did some filming out

1219
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:50,800
here at white sands right 15 miles from

1220
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:52,000
where we live

1221
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:53,520
and

1222
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,240
they

1223
00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:56,800
didn't

1224
00:50:03,349 --> 00:49:59,920
tell me you know uh because it ridicules

1225
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,359
i mean it's it's a comedy it really is

1226
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:05,520
and i laughed all the way through it and

1227
00:50:08,190 --> 00:50:06,720
shoot i could have told them a lot

1228
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:08,200
funnier stuff

1229
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:10,640
[Laughter]

1230
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,680
oh that's hilarious but uh yeah i

1231
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:15,280
laughed all the way through it it was it

1232
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:18,079
was a it was a funny show

1233
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:21,599
i i didn't realize it was funny i yeah

1234
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,440
oh i'm gonna have to see it but i don't

1235
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,000
know if i'll like the funny part but uh

1236
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,680
i will like to see what it is that they

1237
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:29,760
show if you say 90 of the things that

1238
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:30,800
they showed

1239
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,839
is true

1240
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:33,839
yeah actually happened yeah

1241
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,240
yeah actually happened that is pretty

1242
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,680
amazing

1243
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,760
so uh yeah they're saying they're glad

1244
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,920
there's truth in it because you know

1245
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,520
you never know with hollywood what's

1246
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,160
going to happen well it was hollywood up

1247
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:48,480
of course but you know

1248
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:49,440
yeah

1249
00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,960
absolutely absolutely so what's what's

1250
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,559
next for lynn

1251
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:57,280
after you get all those classes online

1252
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,720
well of course every saturday is going

1253
00:51:00,790 --> 00:51:00,160
to be taken up because you're going to

1254
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,800
be

1255
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:03,119
face to face with your students on skype

1256
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:03,920
or

1257
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,319
finally going to get a chance i would

1258
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,000
hope to

1259
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,680
do my artwork

1260
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:14,319
write my books uh

1261
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,760
i i love poetry i love writing poetry

1262
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:19,359
and uh

1263
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,480
um

1264
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:23,280
well i didn't know you were a romantic

1265
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:24,400
oh

1266
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:25,520
well

1267
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,079
i write poetry for one reason

1268
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:31,119
uh i hate to read and if you can

1269
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:32,160
uh

1270
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:35,680
if you can tell a story in 20 lines

1271
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:39,520
instead of 200 pages

1272
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,880
why not

1273
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,720
never thought of it that way

1274
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,160
yes

1275
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,839
you know you mentioned your uh your

1276
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:47,920
artwork and i and i was looking at some

1277
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,520
of it on

1278
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:51,040
on your website

1279
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,480
and um

1280
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,480
you know and i was talking about you

1281
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:57,040
know there was some medieval uh grouping

1282
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,359
of artwork and different ones

1283
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,400
now what i was wondering is

1284
00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:04,880
were any of those

1285
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:07,359
things that you've seen in your remote

1286
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:10,319
viewing were any of those images

1287
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:11,359
from

1288
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,480
memories of of a remote viewing session

1289
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:16,559
not really um

1290
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:20,640
however i will say that most of them

1291
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,200
are a result from remote viewing done

1292
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:27,359
as i do the artwork

1293
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,559
in fact

1294
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:30,319
one of them

1295
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,440
is a

1296
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,359
ship unloading and

1297
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,680
and someone you know and a woman looking

1298
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:38,160
down and watching the people

1299
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:39,040
yep

1300
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:40,319
and uh

1301
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:41,839
that is

1302
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:44,079
actually the home

1303
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,200
of a person and the layout and all that

1304
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,079
and um i didn't know that until almost a

1305
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,160
year after

1306
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,800
the uh after i'd done the painting

1307
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:56,960
one of the paintings i don't know if

1308
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:59,119
i've put it up on the site yet but it's

1309
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,319
uh two kids flying a kite

1310
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,599
and uh

1311
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,119
i don't think it's fair

1312
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,760
no i don't think it's up yet um

1313
00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:09,200
i put up on

1314
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,680
uh facebook

1315
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,480
that

1316
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:14,800
i would

1317
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:16,640
do a painting

1318
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,680
uh

1319
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,760
in like two weeks

1320
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,440
and until then i wasn't going to think

1321
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,760
anything at all about the painting no

1322
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,760
planning no nothing

1323
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:27,040
and

1324
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,359
during those two weeks

1325
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,200
the people on facebook

1326
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:32,880
would remote view

1327
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,240
and tell me what painting i would paint

1328
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,480
but don't post it because i didn't want

1329
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:40,400
to see that

1330
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,760
and so two weeks went by

1331
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,920
i painted the painting i put it on

1332
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,839
facebook and then

1333
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,359
they showed me their

1334
00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:51,200
uh sessions

1335
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,319
and uh

1336
00:53:57,190 --> 00:53:54,640
i would say over 50 percent of the

1337
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,200
people had

1338
00:54:00,390 --> 00:53:59,440
all of the major uh

1339
00:54:02,150 --> 00:54:00,400
elements

1340
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,160
of the picture itself yeah they had

1341
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:04,079
remote viewed

1342
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:05,599
what i would paint

1343
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:08,880
now were these were these trained people

1344
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:11,280
uh most of them are yeah oh okay so

1345
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,800
these are training in different

1346
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,119
different methodologies but yeah

1347
00:54:18,710 --> 00:54:16,880
wow

1348
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:18,720
that's pretty amazing so you let them do

1349
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:20,160
the viewing

1350
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:23,040
yeah and um

1351
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,839
paul o'connor over in ireland is one of

1352
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:27,200
our teachers

1353
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:28,640
and um

1354
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:31,440
he did the same with an artist

1355
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,319
and

1356
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:34,960
they predicted the artwork that the

1357
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,040
artist was going to paint

1358
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:38,960
in several months

1359
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,040
and she painted the picture

1360
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:43,520
and then they showed her the results

1361
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,640
she got all bent out of shape because

1362
00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:48,559
she then said

1363
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:51,340
how can i say this was my idea

1364
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:54,160
[Laughter]

1365
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:56,480
oh that's funny

1366
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,520
oh that is just amazing

1367
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:01,200
it's really i

1368
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,960
i guess in in and like you said it it's

1369
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,960
really anyone could be trained in it i

1370
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,280
guess there's you know certainly it

1371
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:11,920
helps if you have some natural psychic

1372
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:14,240
ability or at least you're open to it

1373
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,960
but

1374
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:17,440
uh it is a matter of

1375
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,960
actual training and skill

1376
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:23,520
one of the uh things in the training is

1377
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,480
like we will have them describe the site

1378
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,880
and then we will say okay

1379
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,880
move

1380
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:31,760
10

1381
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,839
and describe what you see there

1382
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:39,280
and then you know

1383
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,680
we increase the amount and all that and

1384
00:55:45,670 --> 00:55:43,760
one of those times instead of saying 10

1385
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,680
yards or 10 miles

1386
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,680
we say okay

1387
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,599
move ten days forward and tell me what

1388
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,520
you see

1389
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,440
and we find that

1390
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:55,280
moving through time and moving through

1391
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,480
space

1392
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:58,799
and controlled remote viewing

1393
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:02,079
there is absolutely no difference in the

1394
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,520
process

1395
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:05,119
and so um

1396
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,240
and so

1397
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:08,640
we can give them a present target and

1398
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,000
then move them a year forward in time

1399
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:14,640
and we have some good accuracy

1400
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,119
that's amazing you know i think that's

1401
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,400
about all we have time for unfortunately

1402
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,040
uh it's been so wonderful having you and

1403
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:25,119
i hope you will come back again

1404
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:25,920
uh

1405
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,670
well thanks lynn i always enjoy talking

1406
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,960
to you and

1407
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:39,040
over the years it's it's been a great

1408
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,599
pleasure so yep i will give you a buzz

1409
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:43,920
and please give my regards to lovely

1410
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:47,520
wife if i'm back out that way i'll i'll

1411
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,240
stop and see you again give me a buzz

1412
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:52,480
all right good night everybody thanks

1413
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:05,140
foreign

1414
00:57:05,150 --> 00:57:15,270
[Music]

1415
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:38,789
oh

1416
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,470
hey where you going jim the elevator's

1417
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,319
over here taking the stairs but our

1418
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,760
meeting's up on eight yeah i know but

1419
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:45,440
that's eight floors up that's like eight

1420
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,720
times

1421
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:49,040
i don't a lot of stairs that's the point

1422
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,559
i've already lost a few pounds and

1423
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,839
earned almost a hundred dollars in

1424
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,680
wellness incentives whoa you're getting

1425
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,160
rewarded for working out yeah i know it

1426
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:58,000
i'm just as surprised as you are bob

1427
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,079
fearless is full of surprises that's the

1428
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,680
power of the blue cross and blue shield

1429
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,520
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1430
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,200
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